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justme

I think The Baytown Sun is trying to start a protest by having this vote.

borninbaytown

I was born in Baytown and I am for removing the R.E.L's name. He and many like him were nothing more than racists, murderers and rapist in the name God, Country, State's right s and manifest destiny. Those monuments and names on schools should have never been put up. They were not examples and heroes of humanity. They were in fact the just like the Nazis

Carleton

British Field Marshal Garnet Joseph Wolseley said of Lee:

“I believe he will be regarded not only as the most prominent figure of the Confederacy, but as the Great American of the nineteenth century, whose statue is well worthy to stand on an equal pedestal with that of Washington, and whose memory is equally worthy to be enshrined in the hearts of all his countrymen.”

“This estimate is based upon a criticism of his character as a man, a soldier, and a Christian citizen. As a thinker and man of intellectual powers little has been said of him, and yet, intellectual power, associated with moral purity, are the true spring of greatness.”

dwalcerz

When we name a public institution after a person, we are valorizing that person: we are saying that we admire that person and look up to them as an example of what we value in a person. I find it incomprehensible that we as a society would want to continue to valorize Robert E. Lee. We need to change the name.

SDWheeler

Which proves you know absolutely nothing about Robert E. Lee.

RELover

Why now? Why not 50 years ago?

borninbaytown

Amen ! I was born in Baytown and I am for removing the R.E.L's name. He and many like him were nothing more than racists, murderers and rapist in the name God, Country, State's right s and manifest destiny. Those monuments and names on schools should have never been put up. They were not examples and heroes of humanity. They were in fact the just like the Nazis

Lakewood77

To compare Robert E Lee to Nazis, means you know nothing about Robert E. Lee or Nazis. You may have been born in Baytown, but you don't say you attended Lee, so I doubt you did. You don't live here any more...so you really don't have a say. You are just another outsider trying to influence what goes on here. I don't know how long you lived here and you may not have lived here long enough to understand the community bond here.

crfranci

Yes, Robert E. Lee was a general in the Confederate Army from 1861-1865, but he was much more than that. Hr served in the U.S. Military for 32 years with distinguished service, and he served as president of Washington and Lee University from 1865 until his death. Yes, we should remove his picture as a Confederate general and replace it with his picture as a college president. Let’s keep the name and remember him as an educator instead of his role in the Confederate Army.

borninbaytown

I was born in Baytown and I am for removing the R.E.L's name. He and many like him were nothing more than racists, murderers and rapist in the name God, Country, State's right s and manifest destiny. Those monuments and names on schools should have never been put up. They were not examples and heroes of humanity. They were in fact just like the Nazis

SDWheeler

Both schools are Baytown establishments dating back decades. This wholesale pandering to the online rage mob must stop and it stops here. There will be no renaming of either school.

AmandaHoll

Every Gander that has ever been and will be are proud Ganders. Dont mess with Baytown history. Dont bring that mess to this town.

RELover

Once a Robert E. Lee Gander ALWAYS a Robert E. Lee Gander and proud of it. Can’t take that away from me.

R. Brown

Hundreds of thousands of dollars this will cost. Unemployment is high, people are getting evicted, businesses are struggling. This is not magic money. Someone has to pay for this. Don't give me twaddle about what is the cost if we don't. Use common sense. Our school district is in debt currently. We vote on bonds. We have to pay them back. Hundreds of thousands of dollars that will not go into raising test scores. It won't go into teacher raises or maintaining our school buses or protecting them. Taxpayers will pay higher taxes. Hundreds of thousands of dollars on a name change. What a waste of money.

baytownbert

Teach history, don't erase it.

Just Steve

Our children of the future will still study American history and learn the good and bad of these things that molded why we are today. Without Martin Luther King, John F Kennedy, Jackie Robinson, James Bowie, Santa Ana, Robert E Lee our future children will never understand why these people were great enough to make history. These people remind us of the good that came out of things they did. The history that teaches us to improve our own selves to make sure we avoid at all costs, to find other ways to settle disagreements. Adding some stucco over a name allowing it to be PJ High is not going to teach our children anything about how to understand that victory, pain or suffering are necessary lessons we need to know to be prepared for a new world filled with hate. I just cannot imagine how Plain Jane High will accomplish the real goal of unity in a small Texas town full of history.

missmelllie

Our community was becoming more unified by the year with all the Town Square and other events planned so well by our city leaders. All the name calling and stone throwing brought on by the renaming question needs to stop now before further damage is done to our unity. This issue should be voted on in a public election so that all can feel like they had a part in the outcome.

GanderPride94

[angry] No! Leave the name alone!! I am Hispanic and I never felt any discrimination at my school because of the name on the building. If you felt this strong about the name when you attended ROBERT E. LEE HIGH, why didn't you do something about it THEN? Get off the gas and put your efforts into the education of our kids! Give that money you want V to spend on renaming the school to the teachers!! They are the ones who deserve an increase in their pay!! Some of you are getting a dose of what the teachers deal with Monday thru Friday!![angry]

Ganders1976

I'm ashamed of this school board. I was born and raised in Baytown. I am a 1976 graduate and proud to say in a Fighting Gander then and now. You the board should do what you were hired to do. Help EDUCATE the students of Baytown. Instead you want to spend thousands of hats working tax payers money on something so trivial. Put that money on making schools safe and a healthy place to be in. Give those teachers a raise for not only being a teacher, someone who loves the students of Baytown and for their dedications to these students. You the BOARD have an obligation to this not renaming a school because it MIGHT offend someone. We ALL get offended with things in life but get over and move on. Do your job. Get these kids EDucate and STOP teaching them RACISM!!!

Carleton

“When the future historian shall come to survey the character of Lee he will find it rising like a huge mountain above the undulating plane of humanity, and he must lift his eyes high toward heaven to catch its summit. He possessed every virtue of other great commanders without their vices. He was a foe without hate; a friend without treachery; a soldier without cruelty; a victor without oppression; and a victim without murmuring. He was a public officer without vices; a private citizen without wrong; a neighbor without reproach; a Christian without hypocrisy and a man without guile. He was a Caesar without his ambition; Frederick without his tyranny; Napoleon without his selfishness; and Washington without his reward. He was obedient to authority as a servant, and royal in authority as a true king. He was gentle as a woman in life; modest and pure as a virgin in thought; watchful as a Roman vestal in duty; submissive to law as Socrates; and grand in battle as Achilles.”

Benjamin Harvey Hill, U.S. Congressman from 1875 to 1882, in an address before the Southern Historical Society, Atlanta, Georgia, February 18, 1874. As quoted in Senator Benjamin H. Hill of Georgia; His Life, Speeches and Writings (1893) by Benjamin Harvey Hill Jr., p. 406

Marxism is UnAmerican hatred. R E Lee is worthy of remembering and admiring.

cgarcia1969

Those of you who say it will cost too much neglect to remember this. Built iron fences around many of our schools, installed electronic security measures on all our schools , hired additional security personnel to protect our children, why, because this country won’t require common sense gun laws. But yet, citizens says as one of the flimsiest excuse, that it will cost too much ($100,000) to change the name. Go figure.

Steve Celestine

When you know better, you do better..change the name..why are we celebrating losers & traitors..the last Robert E. Lee high school in Texas is in Baytown..that’s nothing to be proud of !!

Gander1976

I graduated 1976. Personally I feel changing the name is a big mistake. Robert E. Lee has been the first High School in Baytown. There is a lot of people would not be happy to see the change and shouldn't be. For one is the cost and making the tax payer pay more in taxes. Next it would have to be Sterling. So why are so app to change the name just to satisfied a few. Need to think of the people that has already gone there. We have pride in our School. I guaranteed the people that donated money to kept the front of Lee the same does not want the name change. States need to teach US History, make a requirement. It's the uneducated that wants the name change.

Keiferbass

I graduated from RSS is '80. I remember racial tensions there. Racial issues were real then and remain still because we haven't LISTENED empathetically too that part of our community that has been wronged.

Being sensitive to others is a basic responsibility for those in power. There is no good reason to keep the name of REL High School. Doing so will send the message that GCCISD is insensitive to a significant portion our our community that has historically been under served.

Systematic racism is real. Our institutions have maintained policies that are based on white supremacy.  Keeping the name REL is an affirmation of Jim Crow policies.  Changing the name of REL will be a step towards righting these wrongs.

Having been a teacher for over 27 years, I know the importance of managing issues that hinder a student's learning. I learned it did really matter what I thought was true in the situation. It mattered more what the student THOUGHT was true. That was the 'reality' I had to address to foster learning. It is always about building and maintaining rapport. And this applies to the name REL.

My parents taught me that if I were doing something that offends others, I should want to stop doing the thing as a sign of love and respect for others.

Maybe you don't believe that the name REL is a Jim Crow form of suppression. So what! It's just a name. But if changing the name makes a positive difference for even a small portion of our community, we should change it!

Respectfully,

Former REL Teacher

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